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Unfortunately their attractive female fiddler Rebecca isn't one of the two ) She teaches Irish and classical fiddle/violin, by the way. I've only personally met two of the Tossers. But I've got to admit that one thing that bugs me about it sometimes, is the fake accent the lead singers frequently employ (not counting Dave King or Dugs Mulhooly of course, who actually are from Ireland ) ) - which sometimes can come off nearly as contrived as a blonde surfer dude from SoCal with dreads singing his Reggae-inspired music with a fake Jamaican accent. While I enjoy a lot of the newer Pogues-inspired music now referred to as "Irish Punk" or "Celtic Punk", I like it for its energy, and its occassional nods to trad, and/or occassional use of trad instruments. Good points all, and since you've broached the subject.
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My bone to pick is with folks who call loud music with guitars "irish" simply because the guys playing it sing about whiskey and wear flat caps onstage. Plenty of folk of irish descent (and also folks who aren't irish at all) play irish trad music and do it well - to my mind they are all playing "irish" music. (and before anyone chimes in, yes I know that the bloke from Flogging Molly is from Ireland - I remember him well from back in the day in Dublin when he played in hard rock bands, not punk bands mind you.)
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As an Irish person I simply find the whole genre of "irish punk" - which is primarily played by folk OUTSIDE of Ireland, to be a bit odd is all. Just wanted to add, in case anyone misunderstands or grabs the wrong end of the stick: I'm not dissing anyone's heritage, or their pride in it - I'm talking about the fact that loud music with electric guitars and the odd mandolin/banjo/bodhran isn't automatically qualified as "irish music" because the players want to be identified as such. You'll likely continue to think that The Tossers are an "irish" band and I'll continue to think that they're an american band that likes to sing about Ireland. It's likely nitpicking on my part and I'll be the first to admit it - my apologies for taking this thread off topic. So if you say "irish punk" to me, the first thing that comes to mind is anything from The Undertones back in the day, to lesser known bands such as Not Our World, Gout, Monkhouse, Ciunas.įYI - The Pogues are an entirely different matter, and all respect to them, great band altogether - it's the wannabes that trailed in their wake that seem to play fast and loose with calling themselves "irish".
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I guess this co-opting of "irishness" rankles with me particularly because a) I'm actually an Irish person from Ireland and b) I'm an original first wave punk rocker - been involved in the scene since I was 11 years old. The Tossers are Irish-Americans who like to sing about their perception of Ireland/irishness - that doesn't make their music "irish". Pennyknuckle, begging to differ mate, but their music isn't "irish" - they may make references to Ireland in their lyrics, but that doesn't make their music "irish" And neither does including instruments such as the mandolin/banjo/bodhran etc - the mandolin is an incredibly recent instrument in irish traditional music and quite a few tradheads of a more puritan bent don't particularly think much of it - not that I pay them much mind but how and ever. I am told that the Tossers started out as a Pogues cover band and also that they were Shane MacGowan's (Pogues frontman) backup band when he toured the US in the period between leaving the Pogues and then working with The Popes. It was on the way back home to Halifax that I realised I'd seen the name before.there was one lonely Tossers CD (Long Dim Road) in a bin at a local used-music store and I promptly picked it up shortly thereafter. I first heard The Tossers in March of 2006 as there was a guy handing out 3 or 4-track Tossers promo CDs after a POGUES show at The Orpheum Theatre in Boston. Sorry to bring this thread back however after many years thinking about picking up an instrument for the first time, The Tossers were my inspiration for finally doing so, and thus picking up the Mandolin. Are there any other Irish-punk-with-mandolin bands out there that you know of? Thanks for starting this thread - I wasn't previously aware of this band, although I enjoy a couple of other groups in this genre (esp.